Empire Gudgeons
I plan to get three of these lovely fish
but i would like to know more about them because there isnt much on the net about them
just any info in general like temperament would do <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->
their going in tank with 3 rasboras and a SAE and a bn
thanks in advance
DJ
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Empire Gudgeon (Scientific Name: hypseliotris compressa)
Gudgeons are carnivorous fish, particularly suited for garden ponds and aquariums.
Gudgeons exhibit territorial behaviour with each other, but generally behave peacefully with other fish,
however they will prey on fish small enough to swallow.
Size: 7-10cm, They will breed in your pond.
Gudgeons help control mosquitoes by feeding on the larvae in ponds.
http://www.aquariumindustries.com.au/Assets/405/1/EmpireGudgeon.pdf
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"Mooo" wrote:Empire Gudgeon (Scientific Name: hypseliotris compressa)
Gudgeons are carnivorous fish, particularly suited for garden ponds and aquariums.
Gudgeons exhibit territorial behaviour with each other, but generally behave peacefully with other fish,
however they will prey on fish small enough to swallow.
Size: 7-10cm, They will breed in your pond.
Gudgeons help control mosquitoes by feeding on the larvae in ponds.
http://www.aquariumindustries.com.au/Assets/405/1/EmpireGudgeon.pdf
Thanks a heap Moo!!
but from what i hear these gudgeons are peaceful with each other
i think the gudgeons your thinking of are the purple spotted ones...but in fact our lfs keep purple spotted gudgeons in the same tank and their pretty peaceful amongst each other -
I've kept many of these in my earlier days. Used to collect them from a local waterway, along with Striped Gudgeons, Dwarf Flathead Gudgeons, "penny fish" (actually a Glassfish), Blue Eyes, Galaxiids and Gambusia, which I bred and fed to the Striped Gudgeons.
I found Empires to be relatively peaceful with each other, however the males will form small territories at breeding time usually around rock work or drift wood. They have a pretty elaborate breeding display and the males look like they are "glowing" from the inside, and the colours on their fins get really intense. The fry are tiny and it is preferable to have a separate breeding tank for them just so you can raise the young. The best food I found was green water, as most commercial foods are too big for the baby gudgeons to eat. They do grow quickly, reaching up to 5cm in their first year. The male will sometimes breed with several females and females are known to spawn several times a year. The female can lay up to 3,000 eggs per spawning!
You didn't mention the size of your aquarium, but anything under 3ft would be too small for a group of these.
Being a temperate fish, they like the water on the cooler side, however I did keep them successfully in a community tropical aquarium with Angels, Gourami's, Congo Tetras and Kribs (which demised my Empires at breeding time =( ). With the selection of fish you have listed I don't see any issues there. Though they will eat fish small enough to fit in their not-so-big mouths.
The best reference book on any Southern Freshwater Fish is Freshwater Fishes of South-Eastern Australia by R.M. McDowall. It's an oldish book, but an A1 reference book if you can find a copy.
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ahhh sorry"brendonrook" wrote:You didn't mention the size of your aquarium, but anything under 3ft would be too small for a group of these.
**** because the tank is an aquastart 500 which only gets to about 60 litres
but so far this is the best info i have got!! thanks a heap!! -
If empire gudgeons help control mosquitoes, you should get them for that reason alone.Mooo said:Empire Gudgeon (Scientific Name: hypseliotris compressa)
Gudgeons are carnivorous fish, particularly suited for garden ponds and aquariums.
Gudgeons exhibit territorial behaviour with each other, but generally behave peacefully with other fish,
however they will prey on fish small enough to swallow.
Size: 7-10cm, They will breed in your pond.
Gudgeons help control mosquitoes by feeding on the larvae in ponds.
http://www.aquariumindustries.com.au/Assets/405/1/EmpireGudgeon.pdf
I will definitely be putting them in my pond. I didn't know they are carnivorous before. Thanks for the info. -
Hmmm, really interesting to see these beautiful males during the breeding season. I'm not quite sure how to capture the young, though.brendonrook said:I've kept many of these in my earlier days. Used to collect them from a local waterway, along with Striped Gudgeons, Dwarf Flathead Gudgeons, "penny fish" (actually a Glassfish), Blue Eyes, Galaxiids and Gambusia, which I bred and fed to the Striped Gudgeons.
I found Empires to be relatively peaceful with each other, however the males will form small territories at breeding time usually around rock work or drift wood. They have a pretty elaborate breeding display and the males look like they are "glowing" from the inside, and the colours on their fins get really intense. The fry are tiny and it is preferable to have a separate breeding tank for them just so you can raise the young. The best food I found was green water, as most commercial foods are too big for the baby gudgeons to eat. They do grow quickly, reaching up to 5cm in their first year. The male will sometimes breed with several females and females are known to spawn several times a year. The female can lay up to 3,000 eggs per spawning!
