Medications

luigi

I would like to get people's opinion on is there a all purpose medication for fish diseases. I've had recommended that using aqua master multi cure and api melifix is all that you need for first aid for fish. I am not sure of this.

Errol Wilson

NO

Mooo

Water De-Chlorinator, Liquid Bio starter, Melafix (antibacterial and helps heal torn fins n such) & Pimafix (antifungal, also treats internal bacterial infections)
Another is Protozin (ich), all are good to have in your Aquarium treatments kit,

Those multi cures are commonly used with mixed results, & they will hurt your bio bacteria, they have the blue (Methylene Blue) or green (Malachite) ones in em...I would avoid them nowadays..

luigi

Does Seachem have any good products?

Mooo

Heaps /:)

mr_c265

Turning up your heater, checking water, moving fish that are harrassing others and depending on the fish, adding a little salt, pretty all purpose :P

Also, as Moo said, don't use Malachite Green unless you really have too, its really unpleasant. Some chemicals are ok as long as you don't use them in your main tank, they stain everything and wreak havoc on bacteria. Most of these treatments (Protozin included) still use Malachite Green and Formalin though.

Fun fact, Melafix is dilute tea tree oil, that nasty smelling stuff that you use to get rid of ticks and lice, yet its safer than most of the other chemical treatments you can use.

luigi

I think Primafix is based on tea tree oil. Early this year I went on Aquatic Supplies and they sell professional version of Melafix or Primafix. At the time I was wondering what is the difference between the professional and the one that you can get in 478 mls bottles.

mr_c265

Based on, theaquariumwiki.com/Melafix and aquariumguys.com/melafix.html
difference is in the dosage and the size of the bottle. I don't know for sure if theres a difference though, just going off what im reading.

Mooo

Melafix's active constituent is...Cajeput Oil 9.23 g/l
Pimafix's active constituent is...Pimenta racemosa (Bay Oil) 9.8 g/l. ;;)

Doug

there are different brands of melafix and pimafix. follow dosage instructions on the bottle!

Mooo

Opps should have mentioned that, Thanks Doug ">
Mine is API, I have never used any other brands ;;)

luigi

I have discovered a product by Easy Life named Voogle. It's a first aid medication for aquariums. I found this product on Age of Aquarium website.

I thought this might be something that people might be interested in.

mr_c265

With respect to Voogle By Easy Life "Contains Glucomannans, Beta Carotene, Ascorbic Acid, Thiamine, Choline, Folic Acid and other Vitamins and Natural and Synthetic Concentrates solved in Purified Water. Completely biodegradable."

It sounds like not a bad product, it isnt particularly nasty and could indeed help heal minor injuries, infections, imbalances and stress, not too sure if i'd be using it against a large outbreak of whitespot though, id still be reaching for the chemicals to kill the little buggers rather than rely on the fishes immune systems to fight it off. (not too sure if i sound like a hypocrite now considering my earlier bashing of chemical treatments, but white spot isn't something i like to muck around with).

Bob

Hi Luigi,

Looks to me like another "special blend" of vitamins and minerals to help boost the immune system. I have always been somewhat sceptical of the claims of "vitamin peddlers". A good balanced diet has always been shown to maintain the immune system and "extra" vitamins, regarless of the life form ingesting them, have always been excreted along with the urine. So, if you feed your fish variety, including live, frozen, flake, pellet, etc you should be ensuring that they are getting all the V & M they need for a healthy immune system.

Regardless of my beliefs I did a quick search on Easy Life Voogle, and, surprise surprise, there was no information regarding exactly how this product would save you, and your fish from all health problems other than Voogle being a "special" blend of vitamins and minerals.

The second of the links below follows a bit of a discussion regarding EL Voogle on a reef forum focusing on the use of EL Voogle as a "suitable" prevention and/or treatment method for Ick (Ichthyophthirius multifilis). It doesn't look good for EL Voogle.

The first link is only a restatement of one of the comments towards the end of the discussion in the second link.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/blog.php?b=463

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1994573

Regards,

Bob

luigi

I find with products like easy life ffm, geo liquid, easy life voogle doesn't tell what the ingrediants are. A associate of mine put me on geo liquid. I have been using it for two weeks now. I am trying to see if it makes a difference in my tanks.

My wife uses easy life ffm in her turtle tank. Easy life claims their priduct has 30 effects. I found it to be a good product. The water is crystal clean, there is no algae in the tank and the turtles are so active. There are ten rosy barbs which were feeder fish. They are thriving along with a marble bristlenose.

Bob

Hi Luigi,

The thing that most concerns me about EL Voogle is that it makes no claims regarding efficacy as a "treatment", merely that it is an immune system booster and that it boosts the immune system by ensuring that any nutritional deficits are compensated for by the vitamins and minerals in the product.

YES, the immune system is reliant on the availability of a number of essential nutrients (vitamins and minerals) to perform its functions effectively.

YES, stress and poor water quality, overloaded bio-filtration systems etc. can result in an unhealthy tank in such a way that immune systems boosters are needed. But, in a well maintained appropriately filtered tank with proper nutrition these factors should not impact on the health of the fish.

Remember that this product does not claim to be a treatment for any of the bacteria, fungus, other pathogens or parasites that we face if we fail to adequately meet the needs of our fish.

Voogle claims to promote the effectiveness of all life forms in the water, this statement must include the nematodes, cestodes, parasites, molluscs (snails, freshwater mussels), crustacea and so on. Based on this statement it cannot be an effective treatment for your parasites such as fluke (gill, fin, skin), and ich.

Regards,

Bob

luigi

i am looking for a reliable medication for fungus. I've read about api primafix. What other meds are on the market which are good?

Doug

fungusaid is the best out there IMO

luigi

Who sells it. I can not find it. What company priduces it?

eden star

What about internal and external parasites? Does anyone know why API General Cure can't be sold in Australia and what other meds are available to treat parasites?

luigi

I have used aqua master multcure on in my tank. When I cleaned my canister, I have noticed that my bio media (Seachem Matrix) was coated in a light green tinge. Would tinge of the medication harm the beneficial bacteria on the bio media? Need advice!